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We all know how incompetent the US military are*. Isn't it a complete myth that they saved Europe in WW2?

Jul 26, 2009 by W K | Posted in Politics

(*Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan)

Take a look at the countries on the Nazi (Axis) side - Germany (a boondocks still almost bankrupt from WW1), Italy and Japan (at the time both relatively insignificant nations).

Then look at the hanker list of countries on the Allied side:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allies_(Wor…

Poland
Australia
France
French abroad territories
New Zealand
United Kingdom
Newfoundland
Nepal
South Africa
Canada
Czechoslovakia
Norway
Denmark
Belgium
Belgian Congo
Luxembourg
Netherlands
Dutch East Indies and other Dutch colonies
Greece
Soviet Coalition
Tannu Tuva
Mongolia
Panama
United States
Costa Rica
Dominican Republic
El Salvador
Haiti
Honduras
Nicaragua
Philippine Commonwealth
Guatemala
Cuba
Mexico
Brazil
Ethiopia
Iraq
Bolivia
Colombia
Iran
Yugoslavia
Liberia
Peru
Romania
Bulgaria
San Marino
Albania
Bahawalpur
Ecuador
Paraguay
Uruguay
Venezuela
Turkey
Egypt
Lebanon
Syria
Saudi Arabia
Argentina
Chile

There was never any jeopardy that the Allies would lose.

It's a Hollywood myth that we needed the Americans.

Yeah, and WWII never happened either, promptly?

Ben Dover | Jul 26, 2009

you're a moron

black leopard | Jul 26, 2009

you are accepted for us saving your azz

DM | Jul 26, 2009

I'm only answering to access your account for blocking....goodbye

Gar H | Jul 26, 2009

Yeah, I think it was the contingent from Bahawalpur which turned the tide. *rolls eyes*

ND Fan | Jul 26, 2009

they have accursed lots of wars since . . . the vietmanese kicked their sorry ass , i think they managed to beat up grenada though

laurence c | Jul 26, 2009

Well they weren't heros.. they should have invaded Germany much earlier.. they only stepped in when they were attacked.

lsd | Jul 26, 2009

Your register is incorrect...

lordkelvin | Jul 26, 2009

"We" who? *lol*

From bodily experience, people from many nations protest at American embassies when they think we're acting as imperialists. Then become rancid around and protest when we don't help them with the slightest problem between them and their own governments.

Nice try kid.

Gwen | Jul 26, 2009

Like all things
America had their au fait commanders in the military
and America had their dumb azes
the US contributed more to the war effort then all these countries
combined
Since the US was not hit~presently*~like London and Moscow etc etc
We had more resources to ship to the war effort
Spam alone kept the Russians and other nations from STARVING
constant we came in a few years later then most
but once Japan woke the American giant (Pearl Harbor) then the
US overnight rectify defeating the AXIS of EVIL the number one
priority~add up all these countries contributions and they all would
not compare to the USA

Guru | Jul 26, 2009

Germany was not alone in it's riot tens of thousand of Russians fought on their side
But getting back to the 1st part of your silly post explain the following words of Mr Churchill preferable after the cut and run Dunkirk

''We shall never surrender...carry on...until in Gods good time the NEW WORLD with all it's power and might steps forth to the Let go free and LIBERATION of the OLD WORLD'' 4 JUN 1940
Explain why it was Mr Churchill who gave us {America] leader of the free people Why in the world did all the troops in Europe put themselves under the command of an American Ike ?

Would you care to talk of the pacific theatre You do identify there was a war going there as well? ....well maybe not as your country was no were to be seen So the boys down under were up there protecting your sorry back side were they

I have been hearing this B/S for a few years now The 1st metre I was a little shocked than amused the last time I found myself looking at the beer bottle in front of me wondering how much damage it would do too the make believe 's face doing this kind of talk

Niel T you never address the words of Mr Churchill Why ho why would he pray to God for his recuers and liberators to surface to your aid? Remember he was your PM and said WE shall carry on until ,,,,,
I know why we Americans would never take orders from outsiders But the question was why did you?

RayHere | Jul 26, 2009

im steadfast if you told that to the "101st Airborne Division" you might get different answer from what your lib teachers say...that's if you be there conscious...

SHUT UP RANDY | Jul 26, 2009

You are either consummately ignorant of history or just trying to wind people up. We were barely surviving before the USA joined. Without their monster economic and manpower resources it is hard to see how we could ever have defeated the Axis powers.

pmt853 | Jul 26, 2009

Then why wasn't the war ending until we stepped in? I brooding so, no answer. Hitler was storming across Europe and taking possession of everyone in his path, except for Britain. Those other countries you recognition have no kind of military force, even today. They stood on the side lines cheering us on, big deal. I understand your jealousy.

Bibigirl | Jul 26, 2009

ohh for heavens objectives, we won together.......the big three (Russia, Britain and America) we were as vital as each other

lets leave it at that and celebrate the victory in preference to of beating the crap out of each other with each others bulls**t

jaystinger | Jul 26, 2009

Among those allies, it was honestly France and England and Russia. Honduras wasn't going to save democracy. Canada and Australia were too insufficient. Japan controlled the Pacific and pretty much ruled Asia.

France was conquered, England was on its knees. The USSR was still fighting unsympathetic and turning the tide. We will never know if Hitler could have beaten back the USSR if they were only fighting on one front without the US at their backs. They could possibly have fought to a withdraw and come to a truce with USSR with Western Europe and North Africa firmly in their control.

Was it the standing of our military or our industrial might that won out? I don't know how you separate the two. A military cannot win a war without a strong industrial base and secured contribute lines behind it.

Information Police | Jul 26, 2009

Your hypothesis is flawed. Most of those countries did not even have military forces of any consequence or where already taken over by Germany before America even entered the brawl.

Mexico was neutral for most of the war and was even entertaining Nazi overtures to side with them. South American countries were mostly neutral as well.

So, your directory only represents countries that directly benefited by the United States with is military and industrial might siding with the allies. Can you even think the outcome if we were on the Axis side?

*

Jacob W | Jul 26, 2009

You are a pinko. Now that's out of the way...
America was desperately needed. All of those countries you listed were a funded by the British, French, and the Connected States. And if they weren't funded by those nations they had sticks and stones for weapons. Therefore get your facts straight before you create any accusations against the beautiful USA!!!

WWWdingoWWW | Jul 26, 2009

Hollywood greatly belittles other nations involvement in the war yes, but that's decent Hollywood. It bores me to listen to the whole "we saved your ass" crap, but I know it's only unintelligent Americans who take it this & I'm content at that.

Don't drop to Hollywoods level. The US were a major contrabuter to the war effort. Fact. Without US resources the war would have gone on for years longer. To be sure.

I couldn't give a toss what the ill-informed believe. The allies required three powers to win WW2 in 1945: The British Empire, The Like-minded States & the USSR.

United States of Eurasia | Jul 26, 2009

You must be the same guy who shawl Sarah Palin's Adoption papers.

Mad Scientist | Jul 26, 2009

No. Without the supplies that were shipped across the Atlantic (and every only item sent was paid for in cold hard cash) it is unlikely that Britain and all the European soldiers in the UK could have mounted an drive to liberate the European mainland.

Ray - nice of you to pop up again with your skewerred version of "US History 101". One of your choice subjects, Dunkirk, and the "cut and run" theory - well lets put this into perspective and ask you about the US feat of arms at the Kasserine Dated, you know, the battle where much larger US forces came up against the Afrika Korps, and did another Bladensburg Race!!

As for the Pacific try researching any of the following

Burma Manoeuvres
Battle of Okinawa
Battle of Malacca Straight
OP Cockpit
OP Transom
OP Meridian

and of course all other campaigns in which the Noble Australian Navy and the Australian Imperial Forces took part.

As for an American being appointed SAC - I believe it relates to something in your things of do`s and dont`s (Constitution) that US serving personnel cannot be under command of a foreigner.

Neil T | Jul 27, 2009

Are you definitely so dense that you cannot take on board simple ,basic facts.If your grasp of history matches your grasp of human being in general then you,my friend,are not too tightly wrapped.Your question is so inane and your reasoning so fatuous that it does not justify a response,but should be consigned to the 're-cycle' bin of cyberspace.
EDIT;The myth is that we could have won WWII without America's participation.About the facts don't just mouth off baseless nonesense!

Bombadil | Jul 27, 2009

A great list of names does not prove ability and a few were under occupation or influence. We may have held out in Blighty but one point is for certain, the US supplied a lot of the war effort (excluding the human part) and fought a big chunk of it in the far east (I said big chunk not all of it before anyone pipes up but we did have a monumental embarrassing surrender).

Tedward | Jul 27, 2009

Who are the "WE ALL Have knowledge of", ? -------------They started it and we finished it.---------The United States played their part in a war that simply had to be won.

Oswald W | Jul 27, 2009

The struggle of Britain was won long before the americans joined in, after that there would be no way for germany to beat us and the russians.
Winston Churchill begged the americans to touch the war, they led him on and let him think they may join in the future, so that england would not surrender too early. Even when Germanies allie japan attacked america it did not ratify war on germany. Germany declared war on american not the other way round.
And one thing the americans forget to mention is that all the aviation nourish the germans used to attacked europe and britain in the early part of the war had been puchased from the good old US of A.

Goatsucker the 2nd | Jul 27, 2009

Old picture need to know more about it.?

Jul 26, 2009 by kadkins_21 | Posted in Photography

10th Anti Aircraft Sector AEF
6th, 7th, 8th and 9th AA Batteries
Returned from France. USS Mongolia 1919

Want to know more about the occupants in the picture.

Hollywood casting! Is it legit or A SCAM?

Feb 23, 241 by higherlearning | Posted in Theater & Acting

iS THIS A LEGIT Mortify? hOLLY WOOD CASTING ON NORTH HOLLYWOOD. 11135 MONGOLIA BLVD, LOL DOES ANYONE KNOW? AND ALSO WHERE IS A Sensible PLACE FOR AN UPCOMING ACTRESS TO GO WHO IS TRYING TO GET RECGONIZED?

why is the name "Attila" used in very different countries like Mongolia, Turkmenistan, Turkey and Hungary?

Feb 23, 1383 by I sleep with your mom ;)) | Posted in Genealogy

btw,
Attila was a barbaric warrior of Median Asia who invaded Europe

Do I have to go to college before I join the CIA?

Feb 23, 7662 by Kelley | Posted in Military

Hello-

I was wondering if I have to go to college before I credit for the CIA as an interpreter (I am already fairly good at Mandarin and Japanese). My aunt was sent to an immersion school in California for Farsi before leaving to vocation for the embassy. I tried to contact her, but she lives in Saudi Arabia... and it's kind of difficult. :/
I am 18 and already looking at universities, but noticed that I de facto liked what the CIA had to offer and I would rather go to immersion school than to a regular collage where I have to be bothered with math, science etc in preference to of just the language itself.
I have been to Japan before, and am volunteering in China and Mongolia this spring... would the CIA appriciate this? Or look down on it?
Thanks so much! :)

how can i be a footballer?

Feb 23, 6151 by self conscious | Posted in Men's Premiere Leagues (UK)

i'm 14 i can jolly along a fool around soccer and i love soccer and i want to play for milan or chelsea
anyway i'm in U.B mongolia so i can't join youth academy's here where do i go?

Mongolia - Lonely Planet Travel Video

Lonesome Planet author Michael Kohn recommends Mongolia as the kind of country where you can just assail up and be guaranteed adventure. Not a ...

Minter Ellison Takes Steppe Forward With Mongolia Office Launch

23.02.12

Australian inflexible Minter Ellison has launched an office in Mongolia focusing on the energy and resources sector.

Associate Elisabeth Ellis is relocating from Minter Ellison's Hong Kong office to take instil of the new office in the Mongolian capital, Ulaanbaatar. She will be the firm's sole resident partner in Mongolia.

Ready in Australia and Hong Kong, Ellis is part of Minter Ellison's Asian corporate and commercial conduct group. She has particular experience advising on cross-border investments and major infrastructure projects.

Mongolia, which borders Russia and China and is well-known for its steppe grasslands, has attracted major interest from law firms due to its vast mineral and energy resources. Last year, Minter Ellison represented the Mongolian common venture of Houston-based Noble Energy Inc. and Sydney-based Xanadu Mines Ltd.

Australia's Allens Arthur Robinson opened a Mongolian job in November last year . Hogan Lovells also has an office in Ulaanbaatar, following the launch of a formal friendship with Mongolia's GTs Advocates in 2010.

Source: The American Lawyer

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